# Ben Orenstein: "Someday We'll Go Clean That Up" Doesn't Work

EP-044 | February 24, 2020 | 30:44



Topics: Technical Debt, Refactoring


Robby speaks with Ben Orenstein, CEO and Co-founder of Tuple, a remote pair programming app. They discuss why saying, "someday we'll go clean that up" doesn't work in reality, the downsides to putting maintenance work into a backlog, and implicit vs. explicit knowledge. Ben also gives an intro to Tuple.






## Show Notes

Robby speaks with Ben Orenstein, CEO and Co-founder of Tuple, a remote pair programming app. They discuss why saying, "someday we'll go clean that up" doesn't work in reality, the downsides to putting maintenance work into a backlog, and implicit vs. explicit knowledge. Ben also gives an intro to Tuple.

- Ben [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/r00k)
- [Tuple](https://tuple.app/)
- Tuple [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/PairWithTuple)
- [Book] [The Great CEO Within](https://www.amazon.com/Great-CEO-Within-Tactical-Building-ebook/dp/B07ZLGQZYC)

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