# Heidi Helfand: The Art and Wisdom of Changing Teams

EP-087 | February 8, 2021 | 01:01:11




Robby speaks with Heidi Helfand, Director of Product & Technology Excellence at Procore Technologies. They discuss how to reduce fear when making changes, understanding the importance of supporting roles for technical teams, and why we should all keep a living document that lists all of our accomplishments. Heidi also talks about different ways to benchmark a team and how to build alliances.





## Show Notes

Robby speaks with Heidi Helfand, Director of Product & Technology Excellence at Procore Technologies. They discuss how to reduce fear when making changes, understanding the importance of supporting roles for technical teams, and why we should all keep a living document that lists all of our accomplishments. Heidi also talks about different ways to benchmark a team and how to build alliances.

## Helpful Links

- [Heidi's book](https://www.heidihelfand.com/dynamic-reteaming/)
- [Heidi on Twitter](https://twitter.com/heidihelfand)
- [Heidi's Website](https://www.heidihelfand.com)
- [Book Recommendation] [Crucial Conversations Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High, Kerry Patterson and Joseph Genny](https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Conversations-Talking-Stakes-Second/dp/0071775307/)

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