# Lisa Crispin: Agile Testing & Technical Debt

EP-009 | June 10, 2019 | 39:22




Robby speaks with Lisa Crispin, co-author of Agile Testing and Testing Advocate at Mabl. Lisa speaks about "thinking skills" for developers,  why testing professionals should be integrated into dev teams, testing and development cycles, and how to start building automated tests on a legacy application.





## Show Notes

Robby speaks with Lisa Crispin, co-author of Agile Testing and Testing Advocate at Mabl. Lisa speaks about "thinking skills" for developers, why testing professionals should be integrated into dev teams, testing and development cycles, and how to start building automated tests on a legacy application.

## Helpful Links

- [Follow Lisa Crispin](https://twitter.com/lisacrispin) on Twitter
- [Agile Testing Fellow](https://agiletestingfellow.com/)
- [Agile Testing with Lisa Crispin](https://lisacrispin.com/)
- [DevTestOps Community](https://testingindevops.org/)
- [The Nightmare Headline Game](http://testobsessed.com/2006/12/the-nightmare-headline-game-planning-for-the-unexpected/) by Elisabeth Hendrickson
- [Book] [Agile Testing: A Practical Guide for Testers and Agile Teams](https://www.amazon.com/Agile-Testing-Practical-Guide-Testers/dp/0321534468/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0321534468&pd_rd_r=J12JEKA102MZ1N5YA4KE&pd_rd_w=FD7Pq&pd_rd_wg=EVxEE&psc=1&refRID=J12JEKA102MZ1N5YA4KE)
- [Book] [More Agile Testing: Learning Journeys for the Whole Team](https://www.amazon.com/More-Agile-Testing-Addison-Wesley-Signature/dp/0321967054/ref=pd_sim_14_1/135-4325240-0350033?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0321967054&pd_rd_r=b61c2140-894b-11e9-9e0c-2dcbf0177599&pd_rd_w=abEWC&pd_rd_wg=GFfWh&pf_rd_p=90485860-83e9-4fd9-b838-b28a9b7fda30&pf_rd_r=EN075ZC1W6A2P3HJRRWX&psc=1&refRID=EN075ZC1W6A2P3HJRRWX)
- [Book] [More Fearless Change](https://www.amazon.com/More-Fearless-Change-Strategies-Making/dp/0133966445/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2KTAMGHJO9OWA&keywords=more+fearless+change&qid=1559930201&s=books&sprefix=more+fearless%2Cstripbooks%2C201&sr=1-1)
- [Book] [A Practical Guide to Testing](https://leanpub.com/testingindevops)
- [Book] [Explore It!: Reduce Risk and Increase Confidence with Exploratory Testing](https://www.amazon.com/Explore-Increase-Confidence-Exploratory-Testing/dp/1937785025)

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