# Robby Russell: Turning the Mic Around with Kayla Reopelle

EP-060 | June 29, 2020 | 01:11:05




The mic is turned around on Robby for this special episode of Maintainable. Robby is interviewed by guest host Kayla Reopelle, a Ruby on Rails Developer at Planet Argon. They discuss the need for more conversations about improving existing code in the community, learning to manage client expectations as a consultant, and when he learned he was a mender, not a maker.





## Show Notes

The mic is turned around on Robby for this special episode of Maintainable. Robby is interviewed by guest host Kayla Reopelle, a Ruby on Rails Developer at Planet Argon. They discuss the need for more conversations about improving existing code in the community, learning to manage client expectations as a consultant, and when he learned he was a mender, not a maker.

## Helpful Links:

- Robby's [Maintainable Rails email course](https://hi.planetargon.com/maintainable-rails)
- Planet Argon's [Rails Upgrade service](https://www.planetargon.com/services/ruby-on-rails-upgrade)
- [Book] [Never Split the Difference](https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended/dp/0062407805) by Chris Voss
- [Oh My Zsh](https://ohmyz.sh/)
- Follow Robby [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/robbyrussell)
- [About Robby Russell](https://www.planetargon.com/about/robby-russell)
- Connect with Robby [on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbyrussell)
- Connect with Kayla [on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaylareopelle/)

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## Transcript