# Robert Meaney: Building Software That is Easy to Test

EP-016 | July 28, 2019 | 44:38



Topics: Testing, Architecture


Robby speaks to Robert Meaney, Head of Testing & Test Coach at Poppulo. Robert explains the difference between technical debt and testing debt, the importance of observability, and more!





## Show Notes

Robby speaks to Robert Meaney, Head of Testing & Test Coach at Poppulo. Robert explains the difference between technical debt and testing debt, the importance of observability, and more!

## Helpful Links:

- Follow Robert [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/robmeaney)
- Robert [on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-meaney-a6aa5819/)
- [Testability Book](https://skeltonthatcher.com/publications/team-guide-software-testability/)
- Follow Testability Book [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/TestabilityBook)
- [3X with Kent Beck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX2XR73LnRY)
- [Agile Testing: A Practical Guide for Testers and Agile Teams](https://www.amazon.com/Agile-Testing-Practical-Guide-Testers/dp/0321534468)

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