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Class of 2026

Still curious

  • 14 classmates
  • 13 hours of conversation
Robby Russell in 2026
Class host Robby, 2026

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The class of 2026 is still filling up. So far we've talked about using AI to maintain software instead of rewriting it, why the code looks the way it does, and what it takes to keep CodePen running for the long haul.

The class of 2026

  • Class of 2026

    EP-227 John Athayde Maintaining the User Side of Software September 8, 2026, 82 min Listen to the episode
    EP-223 Chris Coyier The Long Game of Maintaining CodePen June 16, 2026, 55 min Listen to the episode
    EP-217 Brittany Ellich Using AI to Maintain Software, Not Rewrite It January 21, 2026, 61 min Listen to the episode
    EP-225 David Hayes Boring Software, Clear Incentives, and Better Checklists August 18, 2026, 55 min Listen to the episode

    John AthaydeChris CoyierBrittany EllichDavid Hayes

  • Class of 2026

    EP-221 Rein Henrichs The Real Work of Maintenance Happens Before You Touch the Code April 14, 2026, 55 min Listen to the episode
    EP-226 Kristin Isaac The Customer Doesn’t Care About Your Technical Debt September 1, 2026, 54 min Listen to the episode
    EP-222 Sally Lait Confidence Is the Real Metric May 5, 2026, 56 min Listen to the episode
    EP-230 Gabriela Moreira When 800 Tests Aren’t Enough October 13, 2026, 53 min Listen to the episode

    Rein HenrichsKristin IsaacSally LaitGabriela Moreira

  • Class of 2026

    EP-219 Joel Oliveira Predictability Is a Maintainability Feature March 17, 2026, 61 min Listen to the episode
    EP-220 Russ Olsen The Hidden Cost of Forgetting Why the Code Looks Like That March 31, 2026, 55 min Listen to the episode
    EP-224 Diana Pfeil Building Confidence in Probabilistic Systems August 4, 2026, 49 min Listen to the episode
    EP-218 Lucas Roesler The Fast Feedback Loop Advantage February 3, 2026, 54 min Listen to the episode

    Joel OliveiraRuss OlsenDiana PfeilLucas Roesler

  • Class of 2026

    EP-228 José Valim Designing a Language You Can Maintain for Decades September 29, 2026, 54 min Listen to the episode
    EP-229 Matija Šošić Abstractions Aren’t Going Anywhere October 6, 2026, 54 min Listen to the episode

    José ValimMatija Šošić

For the record

First day of school
Brittany Ellich, January 21, 2026
Longest conversation
John Athayde, 01:22:19
Last bell
Gabriela Moreira, October 13, 2026