Class of 2025
The why behind the line
- 22 classmates
- 19 hours of conversation
A note from your host
This class brought framework creators, people who wrote the books, and a lot of practical advice about keeping your stack simple enough to live with.
The class of 2025
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Class of 2025
EP-216 Kent L Beck You’re Ignoring Optionality… and Paying for It December 9, 2025, 50 min Listen to the episodeEP-205 Mercedes Bernard Friendly Code Welcomes Everyone In April 8, 2025, 49 min Listen to the episodeEP-198 Mike Bowers From ISAM to JSON—Navigating 40+ Years of Database Evolution February 11, 2025, 45 min Listen to the episodeEP-209 Joel Chippindale Why High-Quality Software Isn’t About Developer Skill Alone July 1, 2025, 57 min Listen to the episodeKent L BeckMercedes BernardMike BowersJoel Chippindale
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Class of 2025
EP-206 Freedom Dumlao What 70 Java Services Taught Me About Focus April 22, 2025, 63 min Listen to the episodeEP-199 Marty Haught Rethinking Technical Debt—Is It Really Just Drift? February 18, 2025, 53 min Listen to the episodeEP-195 Joel Hawksley The Hidden Costs of Frontend Complexity January 14, 2025, 46 min Listen to the episodeFreedom DumlaoMarty HaughtJoel HawksleySara Jackson
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Class of 2025
EP-212 Nathan Ladd Relentless Improvement and the Cost of Neglect October 14, 2025, 55 min Listen to the episodeEP-196 Carola Lilienthal Tackling Technical Debt with Patterns and Domain Knowledge January 21, 2025, 43 min Listen to the episodeEP-200 Julia López Code Tells a Story—Even the White Spaces February 25, 2025, 51 min Listen to the episodeEP-215 Don MacKinnon Why Simplicity Beats Cleverness in Software Design December 2, 2025, 51 min Listen to the episodeNathan LaddCarola LilienthalJulia LópezDon MacKinnon
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Class of 2025
EP-207 Joe Masilotti Simplify Your Stack, Ship Mobile Sooner May 20, 2025, 56 min Listen to the episodeEP-197 Lorna Mitchell Writing Documentation Engineers Will Actually Read January 28, 2025, 43 min Listen to the episodeEP-211 Taylor Otwell What 14 Years of Laravel Taught Me About Maintainability August 26, 2025, 56 min Listen to the episodeJoe MasilottiLorna MitchellTaylor OtwellEvan Phoenix
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Class of 2025
EP-213 Denis Rechkunov When Consistency Becomes a Culture October 28, 2025, 67 min Listen to the episodeEP-203 Chris Salvato Building Developer Paradise by Sitting in the Problem Space March 25, 2025, 47 min Listen to the episodeEP-208 Melanie Sumner Why Continuous Accessibility Is a Strategic Advantage June 10, 2025, 50 min Listen to the episodeEP-202 Heimir Thor Sverrisson Architecture First, Tech Debt Second March 18, 2025, 41 min Listen to the episodeDenis RechkunovChris SalvatoMelanie SumnerHeimir Thor Sverrisson
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Class of 2025
EP-201 Noémi Ványi Only Fix Problems That Are Actually Problems March 11, 2025, 42 min Listen to the episodeEP-214 Chris Zetter Building a Database to Better Understand Maintainability November 18, 2025, 50 min Listen to the episodeNoémi VányiChris Zetter
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Class award
Longest running framework
Taylor Otwell
“What 14 Years of Laravel Taught Me About Maintainability”
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Class award
Most likely to keep their options open
Kent L Beck
“You’re Ignoring Optionality… and Paying for It”
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Nominated
Most likely to explain one line for an hour
Evan Phoenix
“The Why of the One Line”
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Honorable mention
Most services survived
Freedom Dumlao
“What 70 Java Services Taught Me About Focus”
Seventy!
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Runner-up
Most likely to leave it alone
Noémi Ványi
“Only Fix Problems That Are Actually Problems”
For the record
- First day of school
- Joel Hawksley, January 14, 2025
- Longest conversation
- Evan Phoenix, 01:09:13
- Last bell
- Kent L Beck, December 9, 2025